REVIEW & RANGE REPORT – BAIKAL IZH27 O/U Based on a Browning model, Baikal IZH 27, over the past three decades, has earned reputation of a robust, reliable and efficient shotgun. Basically a simple Browning design, it hardly has anything tricky inside that would go out of order and trouble the user. Off course, Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod has ensured high quality metallurgy and machining to provide enough durability to this simple O/U design.
Certainly not as elegant as various O/U models of the likes of Beretta, Browning or Benelli etc, Baikal IZH 27 provides a cheap alternative which does not at all lag behind in durability / heavy duty use and is quite up to the mark in range performance as well. A popular gun amongst the hunters and those skeet shooters who can not afford the high end skeet guns, IZH 27 is one of the hottest selling O/U in Pakistan. IZH27 comes in various models with single, double and selective triggers, manual / auto ejectors and the sporting model which has palm swell on the butt, sleak forearms, fluorescent front sights and a ported barrel to reduce muzzle flip / recoil.
The one shown in this review is IZH 27EM-IC with single trigger and selective ejector. Various models of IZH 27 are: - IZH 27M.basic model with manual ejection and double trigger - IZH 27EM.model with selective auto ejection - IZH 27M-IC.model with manual ejector and single trigger - IZH 27EM-IC.model with selective auto ejector and single trigger - IZH 27M-IC 'Sporting'. Model with selective auto ejector, single trigger, florescent front sights, ported barrels, palm swell in the stock butt and a sleek forend. BASIC SPECS Model: IZH 27EM-IC Manufacturer: Izhevsky Meckhanichesky Zavod (IZH Baikal) Gauge: 12 Gauge (18.4 mm) Type: O/U shotgun Chamber: 76.2 mm Barrel Length: 710 mm, (28 Inches) Barrel Material: 4140 Chrome-Moly Steel Chokes: 3 flush screw-in type chokes (IC, M, F) Furniture: Wood Safety location: Behind the top lever Finish: deep blue Sights: brass front bead Slug firing Capability: Yes Max Gas Pressure: 90 MPa (918 kgf/cm2) REVIEW Packing: IZH 27EM-IC comes packed in a cardboard box which is reasonably strong. The box contains the gun (in disassembled form), 3 chokes (two in the barrels and one choke alongwith with the key in a plastic pack) and a user manual.
Like all other Baikal products, the user manual is signed and essential entries are made in hand. Finish, Looks and Quality of Manufacturing: Well, I would say that finish and looks are ok. Nothing spectacular and elegant about it, like say when I compare it with Turkish shotguns, they have far better finish and looks. European and American shotguns are off course even better.
However, the quality of manufacturing of various parts is good and one can straightaway make out that the parts are robust, well machined and would last a longtime. Barrels and Action: IZH 27EM-IC is an O/U shotgun with a selective auto ejector.
The 28 inch barrels made of forged steel, are vertically arranged and have been joined by a breach band and inter-barrel rib. Barrels and chamber are chrome-plated for enhanced durability and corrosion resistance. The barrels of IZH 27EM-IC are capable of firing all type of magnum loads and slugs. Barrels are locked inside the receiver with a locking bolt which is operated by the top lever to open the action.
On opening the receiver, the fired shells are automatically ejected by the selective ejector while the unfired shells are remain in the chamber. To allow manual ejection (which may be preference of a particular shooter), the selective ejector setting can be dis-engaged by turning the dis-connector. There are 6 types of chokes available, namely, C, IC, M, IM, F and T. However, only IC, M and F are provided with gun. I feel that there should at least be four chokes with the gun,ie, C should be added. In fact Baikal IZH 27EM-IC sold in Canada and US is provided with four chokes.
I wonder why they provide 3 chokes in guns being sent to Pakistan or is there someone in Pakistan who takes out one choke (C) from the original packing?? I say this because I have seen C type choke being commonly sold with most dealers in 1500-2000 Rs. Trigger: IZH 27 comes both in single and double trigger models. IC at the end of IZH 27EM-1C indicates a single trigger model. The trigger is very nice, smooth with no creep or over travel. The sequence of fire is first the bottom barrel and then top barrel. However, this setting can be changed by the user making it top first and bottom later.
Firing Mechanism: All IZH 27 models have hammer type firing mechanism. Hammers are cocked and mainspring is compressed on opening of the barrels. Sears are made separately from the hammers. On closing the barrels, the safety is automatically turned on. Furniture: The stock and forend are made of walnut and beech. However, the quality of finish is little on mediocre side and can be greatly improved.
They are nevertheless strongly made and can take lot of field abuse. The Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod says that IZH 27EM-1C has simple butt stock and IZH 27EM-1C 'Sporting' is provided with a palm swell on the butt and has a sleek forend. However, if you have a look at the pics below, you would see that this particular IZH 27EM-1C that I have has a palm swell as well as a sleek sporting type forend but does not have the illuminating fiber optic front sight and ported barrels, which a IZH 27EM-1C 'Sporting' model is supposed to have. Stock butt is joined with receiver whereas the forend can be removed, like most other guns. The gun is very easy to handle with a palm swell and sleek forend, specially during skeet shooting. The length of pull is 14 inches which may have to be increased for a person of tall height / long arms. Please note the palm swell on the stock butt.
On left is the forend of IZH 27EM-1C 'Sporting' model while on right is the forend that comes with all other IZH 27 models. The one with sporting model is sleek while the normal one is a little wide and big. Fortunately, the forend on my IZH 27EM-1C is of sporting type, though it is supposed to have a normal forend and a stock butt without palm swell. Such exceptions are difficult to find. A friend of mine searched for the same model but could not find Safety Mechanism: IZH 27 is a vary safe shotgun. All models of IZH 27 have an automatic safety which engages (blocks the sear) whenever top lever is pushed right to open the barrels.
The safety lever (shown in the pic below immediately behind top lever) has to be pushed forward before firing. In case the gun is dropped which results in releasing of hammers without pressing the trigger, the interceptors fitted in firing mechanism prevent the gun from firing. RANGE REPORT/HUNTING PERFORMANCE Shot Pattern Below are some of the patterns formed by IZH 27 with different types of shotshells; I would add the results from SG/LG and #8 shotshells on this weekend.
Distance30 M (100 ft) AmmoPOF Shaheen BB Chokes.M in bottom barrel, IC in top barrel The pattern from bottom barrel is generally well centered with a slight bias downwards. Bulk of the pallets hitting with a 10 inch radius circle Distance30 M (100 ft) AmmoPOF Shaheen # 4 Chokes.M in bottom barrel, IC in top barrel Pattern from bottom barrel. Generally well centered again.
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The spread is around 16 inches radius. The pallets shown with plus sign in green area of the target are #4 while those in small circles (in green area only) are the previous ones from BB shell Distance30 M (100 ft) AmmoPOF Shaheen # 6 Chokes.M in bottom barrel, IC in top barrel Not a bad pattern for partridge shooting. Shot with top barrel, the bias is a little up, with bulk of the pallets hitting within a radius of 14 inches. First two shots on the hunt. Shooting Shaheen #6 carts, was able to shoot 2 Sisis (sand partridge).
No bad Was able to shoot another 10 in next 2 hours (9 shown in the pic). The gun shot well, shooting 12 out of 16, however, was found a little heavy to carry on the mountains. Once the sissi got into the nullahs, it was hard work chasing them. Shot both POF and Turkish cartrides (For2a) Reliability: I haven't fired enough with this shotgun to comment on this aspect with authority but some of my friends who have the same gun speak very high of IZH 27 reliability. What they say, 'It always shoots, come what may'.
Maintenance: IZH 27 O/U guns are easy to field strip and maintain, nothing technical about it. Like most other O/U shotguns, it can easily be field stripped in three main part, ie, forend, barrels and receiver / stockbutt. Due to chrome-platting of the barrels and chamber, its relatively easy to clean them. Suitability for the Purpose: IZH 27EM-1C is a very useful gun in this price range for hunting and casual skeet shooting.
Its strong and sturdy, well capable of taking rigours of field. A little on the heavier side though, at 3.5 kg, it is not the lightest of guns to carry during walking hunts, however, is manageable. On durability / reliability side, I know of shooters who have fired over 5000 shotshells with this gun without any problem and are still going great. Some of them are using it for skeet and trap, shooting 200-300 cartridges in one session without a problem.
Though if one doing and skeet and trap at professional level, this may not be a good enough gun for him but for casual skeet shooters who shoot like once in a week, it provides a dependable platform. Price and Value for Money Different models of IZH 27 cost between 50-60 k. Those with double trigger and manual ejector are cheaper and the ones with selective auto ejectors and single trigger are more expensive and generally not available in abundance. Those with sporting furniture (like this one) are hard to find. Overall, IZH 27EM-1C provides excellent value for money.
Its hard to beat its durability, reliability and shooting efficiency in this price range. For those, who do not want to spend plus 200k on a shot gun but still want to enjoy years of shooting pleasure, whether on hunting or on casual skeet shooting, IZH 27EM-1C is a highly recommended option. It can bear the rigours of field conditions without a problem and does not put extra burden on shooter's mind with regard to taking extra care of his 250 K shotgun. Si vis pacem, para bellum Last edited by on Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:36 pm, edited 4 times in total.
KBW, Sir, only a week back I was searching for information on BAIKAL IZH 27 and read at least a dozen reviews on this shotgun, but not one, NOT ONE, comes even close to the one which you have written above. The photography might not be up to your satisfaction, but trust me Sir, it is still way beyond our expectations. I can sense prices of this durable gun going up in our market in the very near future.
Having successfully identified gems from the sub-100k range category in handguns by breaking/correcting so many myths/misconceptions there, now your'e targeting shotguns category. You're already a HERO for the average Joe. Till a year back, many uninformed gun enthusiasts of Pakistan used to have no clue about a gun's real capabilities and actual value for money (worth), and were many a times taken for a ride by some dealers, but now they have a GURU who keeps striving dedicatedly to guide them in making informed and effective purchase decisions. Truly Sir, the whole Gun Enthusiasts Community (who get the opportunity of reading your reviews and especially the Average Joe ones, which by the way are the majority) are indebted to you. From the countless hours and ammo you've spent for this cause, you must have already saved millions (collectively, if not billions) for them.
Parcham-e-sitāra-o hilāl, Rahbar-e-taraqqī-o kamāl, Tarjumān-e-māzī, shān-e-hāl, jān-e-istiqbāl!, Sāyah-e-khudā-e-zu-l-jalāl Bolt actions speak louder than words Sometimes adding 175 grains of boat-tailed diplomacy speeds up Peace Talks. Till a year back, many uninformed gun enthusiasts of Pakistan used to have no clue about a gun's real capabilities and actual value for money (worth), and were many a times taken for a ride by some dealers, but now they have a GURU who keeps striving dedicatedly to guide them in making informed and effective purchase decisions. SA, you just wait a little while and you will realise that it is not only uninformed gun enthusiasts of Pakistan, but also uninformed gun enthusiasts accross the world who will be benefiting from such comprehensive and unbiased reviews. In addition to Saif's queries above, please also try to address this qs at your conveninece: I read it in some reviews of this shotgun that 'One has to get used to this shotgun's cast off if you've been used to shooting 'straight stick' stocks. If you are left handed, FORGET IT.it will slap your face with each shot.' The cast off is basically an angled butt stock.when the barrels are point straight ahead, the stock is slightly angled, so that recoil tends to pivot the stock away from a right handed shooter's face. IF you were to shoot it from the left shoulder, it would pivot into your face.
Please comment on this. I would like to ask about the balance and handling of this weapon for 1. Skeet shooting 2. Carrying with a sling on hunt, and then quick aiming upon sighting of prey I think its quite a balanced gun for skeet shooting,a little on the heavier side, though. Its balance cant be compared with the likes of Browning, Beretta and Benelli but its ok, not bad. Haven't used it for hunting yet. Would get back to you once I have climbed a few mountains and shot a few sissi with it Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Great review sir. There was a question anout the balance and the weight of this gun with refference to the Skeet. For Skeet shooting heavy(at least 7-1/2 Lb), longer barrel(30' Or +) and front heavy shotguns are used for the following reasons: 1- Weight of the gun absorbs maximum recoil and allows smoothly shooting double birds and longer periods of shooting without much fatigue to the gun and the shooter. 2- Longer barrels help in swing and measuring the lead. With longer barrels one needs less gap between the tip of the gun and the bird for longer lead. 3- With a front heavy balance one can more easily swing with the momentum geathered by front weight.
So at least weight of this gun is a plus for Skeet. Hassan sahib, thanks for a prompt reply. I desperately needed a shotgun expert to answer this question in detail as I am no expert at skeet shooting. Just do it for the fun sake.
I wrote this review because I own this gun, however, I am quite clear that my knowledge of shotguns in general and skeet / trap shooting in particular is at best elementary. I would therefore need assistance from experts like you, Ghazi sahib, Ahmed Sultan sahib, Sikander sahib with regards to giving expert comments on queries of other members. As regards IZH 27, it is 7.5 lbs and has a 28 inch barrel.
I am not sure how front heavy it is as compared to other skeet guns. I have seen lot of people doing skeet shooting with this gun, perhaps it is the cheapest available option which provides a long service, though quality / performance may be known better to skeet experts. Thanks for your comments Si vis pacem, para bellum. Very, very excellent review - and others on this forum are equally worthwhile.
I have one of these Baikal O/U in 20 gauge, and it has been as fine a general-purpose, reasonable cost gun as I could want. I am an occasional skeet/trap shooter, and sometimes hunt birds. For those interested, here is a link to a very well described series of simple modifications to the IZH-27 models - that will increase the pleasure of owning and using the shotgun. I have used these modifications myself. Best wishes from northern California!!!!!
And thanks to all for a fine forum!!!!!
REVIEW & RANGE REPORT – BAIKAL IZH27 O/U Based on a Browning model, Baikal IZH 27, over the past three decades, has earned reputation of a robust, reliable and efficient shotgun. Basically a simple Browning design, it hardly has anything tricky inside that would go out of order and trouble the user.
Off course, Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod has ensured high quality metallurgy and machining to provide enough durability to this simple O/U design. Certainly not as elegant as various O/U models of the likes of Beretta, Browning or Benelli etc, Baikal IZH 27 provides a cheap alternative which does not at all lag behind in durability / heavy duty use and is quite up to the mark in range performance as well. A popular gun amongst the hunters and those skeet shooters who can not afford the high end skeet guns, IZH 27 is one of the hottest selling O/U in Pakistan. IZH27 comes in various models with single, double and selective triggers, manual / auto ejectors and the sporting model which has palm swell on the butt, sleak forearms, fluorescent front sights and a ported barrel to reduce muzzle flip / recoil. The one shown in this review is IZH 27EM-IC with single trigger and selective ejector. Various models of IZH 27 are: - IZH 27M.basic model with manual ejection and double trigger - IZH 27EM.model with selective auto ejection - IZH 27M-IC.model with manual ejector and single trigger - IZH 27EM-IC.model with selective auto ejector and single trigger - IZH 27M-IC 'Sporting'. Model with selective auto ejector, single trigger, florescent front sights, ported barrels, palm swell in the stock butt and a sleek forend.
BASIC SPECS Model: IZH 27EM-IC Manufacturer: Izhevsky Meckhanichesky Zavod (IZH Baikal) Gauge: 12 Gauge (18.4 mm) Type: O/U shotgun Chamber: 76.2 mm Barrel Length: 710 mm, (28 Inches) Barrel Material: 4140 Chrome-Moly Steel Chokes: 3 flush screw-in type chokes (IC, M, F) Furniture: Wood Safety location: Behind the top lever Finish: deep blue Sights: brass front bead Slug firing Capability: Yes Max Gas Pressure: 90 MPa (918 kgf/cm2) REVIEW Packing: IZH 27EM-IC comes packed in a cardboard box which is reasonably strong. The box contains the gun (in disassembled form), 3 chokes (two in the barrels and one choke alongwith with the key in a plastic pack) and a user manual.
Like all other Baikal products, the user manual is signed and essential entries are made in hand. Finish, Looks and Quality of Manufacturing: Well, I would say that finish and looks are ok. Nothing spectacular and elegant about it, like say when I compare it with Turkish shotguns, they have far better finish and looks.
European and American shotguns are off course even better. However, the quality of manufacturing of various parts is good and one can straightaway make out that the parts are robust, well machined and would last a longtime. Barrels and Action: IZH 27EM-IC is an O/U shotgun with a selective auto ejector. The 28 inch barrels made of forged steel, are vertically arranged and have been joined by a breach band and inter-barrel rib. Barrels and chamber are chrome-plated for enhanced durability and corrosion resistance. The barrels of IZH 27EM-IC are capable of firing all type of magnum loads and slugs.
Barrels are locked inside the receiver with a locking bolt which is operated by the top lever to open the action. On opening the receiver, the fired shells are automatically ejected by the selective ejector while the unfired shells are remain in the chamber.
To allow manual ejection (which may be preference of a particular shooter), the selective ejector setting can be dis-engaged by turning the dis-connector. There are 6 types of chokes available, namely, C, IC, M, IM, F and T. However, only IC, M and F are provided with gun. I feel that there should at least be four chokes with the gun,ie, C should be added. In fact Baikal IZH 27EM-IC sold in Canada and US is provided with four chokes.
I wonder why they provide 3 chokes in guns being sent to Pakistan or is there someone in Pakistan who takes out one choke (C) from the original packing?? I say this because I have seen C type choke being commonly sold with most dealers in 1500-2000 Rs. Trigger: IZH 27 comes both in single and double trigger models.
IC at the end of IZH 27EM-1C indicates a single trigger model. The trigger is very nice, smooth with no creep or over travel. The sequence of fire is first the bottom barrel and then top barrel. However, this setting can be changed by the user making it top first and bottom later. Firing Mechanism: All IZH 27 models have hammer type firing mechanism. Hammers are cocked and mainspring is compressed on opening of the barrels.
Sears are made separately from the hammers. On closing the barrels, the safety is automatically turned on. Furniture: The stock and forend are made of walnut and beech. However, the quality of finish is little on mediocre side and can be greatly improved. They are nevertheless strongly made and can take lot of field abuse.
The Izhevsky Mekhanichesky Zavod says that IZH 27EM-1C has simple butt stock and IZH 27EM-1C 'Sporting' is provided with a palm swell on the butt and has a sleek forend. However, if you have a look at the pics below, you would see that this particular IZH 27EM-1C that I have has a palm swell as well as a sleek sporting type forend but does not have the illuminating fiber optic front sight and ported barrels, which a IZH 27EM-1C 'Sporting' model is supposed to have. Stock butt is joined with receiver whereas the forend can be removed, like most other guns. The gun is very easy to handle with a palm swell and sleek forend, specially during skeet shooting. The length of pull is 14 inches which may have to be increased for a person of tall height / long arms.
Please note the palm swell on the stock butt. On left is the forend of IZH 27EM-1C 'Sporting' model while on right is the forend that comes with all other IZH 27 models. The one with sporting model is sleek while the normal one is a little wide and big. Fortunately, the forend on my IZH 27EM-1C is of sporting type, though it is supposed to have a normal forend and a stock butt without palm swell. Such exceptions are difficult to find.
A friend of mine searched for the same model but could not find Safety Mechanism: IZH 27 is a vary safe shotgun. All models of IZH 27 have an automatic safety which engages (blocks the sear) whenever top lever is pushed right to open the barrels.
The safety lever (shown in the pic below immediately behind top lever) has to be pushed forward before firing. In case the gun is dropped which results in releasing of hammers without pressing the trigger, the interceptors fitted in firing mechanism prevent the gun from firing. RANGE REPORT/HUNTING PERFORMANCE Shot Pattern Below are some of the patterns formed by IZH 27 with different types of shotshells; I would add the results from SG/LG and #8 shotshells on this weekend. Distance30 M (100 ft) AmmoPOF Shaheen BB Chokes.M in bottom barrel, IC in top barrel The pattern from bottom barrel is generally well centered with a slight bias downwards. Bulk of the pallets hitting with a 10 inch radius circle Distance30 M (100 ft) AmmoPOF Shaheen # 4 Chokes.M in bottom barrel, IC in top barrel Pattern from bottom barrel.
Generally well centered again. The spread is around 16 inches radius. The pallets shown with plus sign in green area of the target are #4 while those in small circles (in green area only) are the previous ones from BB shell Distance30 M (100 ft) AmmoPOF Shaheen # 6 Chokes.M in bottom barrel, IC in top barrel Not a bad pattern for partridge shooting. Shot with top barrel, the bias is a little up, with bulk of the pallets hitting within a radius of 14 inches. First two shots on the hunt. Shooting Shaheen #6 carts, was able to shoot 2 Sisis (sand partridge). No bad Was able to shoot another 10 in next 2 hours (9 shown in the pic).
The gun shot well, shooting 12 out of 16, however, was found a little heavy to carry on the mountains. Once the sissi got into the nullahs, it was hard work chasing them.
Shot both POF and Turkish cartrides (For2a) Reliability: I haven't fired enough with this shotgun to comment on this aspect with authority but some of my friends who have the same gun speak very high of IZH 27 reliability. What they say, 'It always shoots, come what may'.
Maintenance: IZH 27 O/U guns are easy to field strip and maintain, nothing technical about it. Like most other O/U shotguns, it can easily be field stripped in three main part, ie, forend, barrels and receiver / stockbutt. Due to chrome-platting of the barrels and chamber, its relatively easy to clean them. Suitability for the Purpose: IZH 27EM-1C is a very useful gun in this price range for hunting and casual skeet shooting.
Its strong and sturdy, well capable of taking rigours of field. A little on the heavier side though, at 3.5 kg, it is not the lightest of guns to carry during walking hunts, however, is manageable. On durability / reliability side, I know of shooters who have fired over 5000 shotshells with this gun without any problem and are still going great. Some of them are using it for skeet and trap, shooting 200-300 cartridges in one session without a problem. Though if one doing and skeet and trap at professional level, this may not be a good enough gun for him but for casual skeet shooters who shoot like once in a week, it provides a dependable platform.
Price and Value for Money Different models of IZH 27 cost between 50-60 k. Those with double trigger and manual ejector are cheaper and the ones with selective auto ejectors and single trigger are more expensive and generally not available in abundance.
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Those with sporting furniture (like this one) are hard to find. Overall, IZH 27EM-1C provides excellent value for money. Its hard to beat its durability, reliability and shooting efficiency in this price range.
For those, who do not want to spend plus 200k on a shot gun but still want to enjoy years of shooting pleasure, whether on hunting or on casual skeet shooting, IZH 27EM-1C is a highly recommended option. It can bear the rigours of field conditions without a problem and does not put extra burden on shooter's mind with regard to taking extra care of his 250 K shotgun. Si vis pacem, para bellum Last edited by on Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:36 pm, edited 4 times in total. KBW, Sir, only a week back I was searching for information on BAIKAL IZH 27 and read at least a dozen reviews on this shotgun, but not one, NOT ONE, comes even close to the one which you have written above. The photography might not be up to your satisfaction, but trust me Sir, it is still way beyond our expectations.
I can sense prices of this durable gun going up in our market in the very near future. Having successfully identified gems from the sub-100k range category in handguns by breaking/correcting so many myths/misconceptions there, now your'e targeting shotguns category. You're already a HERO for the average Joe. Till a year back, many uninformed gun enthusiasts of Pakistan used to have no clue about a gun's real capabilities and actual value for money (worth), and were many a times taken for a ride by some dealers, but now they have a GURU who keeps striving dedicatedly to guide them in making informed and effective purchase decisions. Truly Sir, the whole Gun Enthusiasts Community (who get the opportunity of reading your reviews and especially the Average Joe ones, which by the way are the majority) are indebted to you. From the countless hours and ammo you've spent for this cause, you must have already saved millions (collectively, if not billions) for them.
Parcham-e-sitāra-o hilāl, Rahbar-e-taraqqī-o kamāl, Tarjumān-e-māzī, shān-e-hāl, jān-e-istiqbāl!, Sāyah-e-khudā-e-zu-l-jalāl Bolt actions speak louder than words Sometimes adding 175 grains of boat-tailed diplomacy speeds up Peace Talks. Till a year back, many uninformed gun enthusiasts of Pakistan used to have no clue about a gun's real capabilities and actual value for money (worth), and were many a times taken for a ride by some dealers, but now they have a GURU who keeps striving dedicatedly to guide them in making informed and effective purchase decisions. SA, you just wait a little while and you will realise that it is not only uninformed gun enthusiasts of Pakistan, but also uninformed gun enthusiasts accross the world who will be benefiting from such comprehensive and unbiased reviews. In addition to Saif's queries above, please also try to address this qs at your conveninece: I read it in some reviews of this shotgun that 'One has to get used to this shotgun's cast off if you've been used to shooting 'straight stick' stocks. If you are left handed, FORGET IT.it will slap your face with each shot.'
The cast off is basically an angled butt stock.when the barrels are point straight ahead, the stock is slightly angled, so that recoil tends to pivot the stock away from a right handed shooter's face. IF you were to shoot it from the left shoulder, it would pivot into your face. Please comment on this. I would like to ask about the balance and handling of this weapon for 1. Skeet shooting 2. Carrying with a sling on hunt, and then quick aiming upon sighting of prey I think its quite a balanced gun for skeet shooting,a little on the heavier side, though. Its balance cant be compared with the likes of Browning, Beretta and Benelli but its ok, not bad.
Haven't used it for hunting yet. Would get back to you once I have climbed a few mountains and shot a few sissi with it Si vis pacem, para bellum. Great review sir.
There was a question anout the balance and the weight of this gun with refference to the Skeet. For Skeet shooting heavy(at least 7-1/2 Lb), longer barrel(30' Or +) and front heavy shotguns are used for the following reasons: 1- Weight of the gun absorbs maximum recoil and allows smoothly shooting double birds and longer periods of shooting without much fatigue to the gun and the shooter. 2- Longer barrels help in swing and measuring the lead. With longer barrels one needs less gap between the tip of the gun and the bird for longer lead.
3- With a front heavy balance one can more easily swing with the momentum geathered by front weight. So at least weight of this gun is a plus for Skeet. Hassan sahib, thanks for a prompt reply. I desperately needed a shotgun expert to answer this question in detail as I am no expert at skeet shooting. Just do it for the fun sake. I wrote this review because I own this gun, however, I am quite clear that my knowledge of shotguns in general and skeet / trap shooting in particular is at best elementary. I would therefore need assistance from experts like you, Ghazi sahib, Ahmed Sultan sahib, Sikander sahib with regards to giving expert comments on queries of other members.
As regards IZH 27, it is 7.5 lbs and has a 28 inch barrel. I am not sure how front heavy it is as compared to other skeet guns. I have seen lot of people doing skeet shooting with this gun, perhaps it is the cheapest available option which provides a long service, though quality / performance may be known better to skeet experts. Thanks for your comments Si vis pacem, para bellum. Very, very excellent review - and others on this forum are equally worthwhile. I have one of these Baikal O/U in 20 gauge, and it has been as fine a general-purpose, reasonable cost gun as I could want. I am an occasional skeet/trap shooter, and sometimes hunt birds.
For those interested, here is a link to a very well described series of simple modifications to the IZH-27 models - that will increase the pleasure of owning and using the shotgun. I have used these modifications myself. Best wishes from northern California!!!!! And thanks to all for a fine forum!!!!!
Have bought three of these in the last three years. 180046 12ga for myself.
180045 20ga for my wife and the 410 for my son(I dont remember the model number off hand and had to special order through Gander Mountain). All three are solid well built guns for the money. The wood to metal fit is very good and we have had no problems. We use the guns mostly for hunting.
I do use mine for shooting clays 2-3 times a year as well. The finish of the guns is good, however the checkering on the stocks is rather shallow in a couple of spots. I think they are great guns for the money. I was very happy to see some reasonable double guns come to the market a few years back.
Do stop at your local stores and hold a few Baikals,Stoegers and Verona's for yourself. Some guys will tell you to spend the money for the Citori, Ruger Etc. I hunt with the same type of guys and usually end up with more birds. I regularly golf with friends who have to have the best ( Calloway,Taylor Made, Etc.) We play fairly evenly and I even beat them sometimes( with my 15 year old Wilson's) Just my 2 cents. Good Luck, Rob. I bought an IZH27, and immediately smoked the first 18 clays with it. After that I started to shoot more like usual tho.
In case you hadn't noticed, the gun has a little cast-off, so a lefty might not like it much. Thus far the problems I've had with mine have been: the firing pin for the bottom barrel has not retracted after firing, very occasionaly, and made it difficult to open the breech. And once it doubled when I selected the top barrel to fire first. It's not the finest O/U you can buy, but I bet you'll have a hard job finding a better one for the price. A friend of mine purchased an IZH-27 a couple of weeks ago and several of us got together with him for a round of sporting clays and to get a look at his new Russkie stackbarrel. For the money it appeared to be a good buy. As has been mentioned, the cast-off is appreciable and this puts me off because of my left-handedness (you look down the barrel and the thing positively points to the right, big time.) My friend had one incident during the round of the gun failing to fire the 2nd barrel.
I don't know why, but it happened. I was under the impression that these things have mechanical rather than inertial triggers, so malfunctions of this type should not occur? The other problem with this gun is that as a sporting model you have to wonder why the safety is automatic.
There were several wasted clays (when all of us tried the 27) due to this peculiarism. This experience of the IZH-27 has lead me to conclude that this is not the way to go in a sporting O/U - I would save the money or take out a 2nd mortgage and buy a better gun, but that's me. I have had problems with my IZH 27.In the year of ownership and about a 2000 rounds I first had to put finish on the stocks, then cure a sticky firing pin after that Have the stock glued and fitted to the reciever because the gun to metal was wrong which screwed my whole hunting season. I think if you are going to shoot at a range its best to spend in 1000-1500 and get a solid gun that you can put 10,000 rounds through trouble free. You will get a gun that doesn't come with a bunch of hassle and you will be happier longer, not to mention resale if you hate it. I didn't even make it a year before a upgraded. Finish on stock - Asthetic Sure I love paying for a gun and having the stock tarnishing on the third outing.
Isn't a gun partly aesthetic, hence the phrase 'look and feel'. How about a trouble free round of of clays? What's the aesthetic value of that? Sticky pin - Could happen to any O/U, and I've seen it happen. It sure is nice to take a new gun out of the box and down to the range, thinking that you got a great gun and then having to break it over your knee every time to extract the shells. Pretty disappointing.
Look at the the post on and see how many other are moaning about stiff actions. Not to mention the great feeling of having the skeet squads you're shooting with ducking for c27 owners over because you're enganged in mortal combat over your spent shells. Maybe that would fall back in the aesthetics category. The gun shows excessive wear and the gunsmith says that the the ends of the firing pins are mashing out like tent stakes because the metal is soft. So plan on having the problem happen often.
Stock - How was the wood to metal 'wrong'? When the stock was fitted to the receiver they cut the space too small for the action and it split the stock like a wedge, causing it to crack in two places on the right side. So what do I do with this Russian elephant? I have put too much effort into it to let it go for the low price it would sell for. As one dealer replied when I asked him about a trade-in, 'there'd be blood in the Streets.' It is my first o/u and its a good gun to shoot once in a while but if I knew how much I was going to like shooting clays when I first bought the gun I would have set my sites higher.
Or maybe shot for a year with my 1100 and formed a better decision. Best regards brent.
Greetings from Finland I am new Baikal IJ27 12/76 owner. My opinion is: decent gun, low price. You need better? Spend much more money. Dont have lots of money? Buy Baikal Some serious words though: Take the forend off and check the markings of the barrels. No magnums, sir (at least not over 90mpa magnums ).
No steel shot marking? I would not put steel in the chamber. Anyway: My dealer gave me written verification that I can use magnums. So I use them.so far Best regards Jouko EU: From Welfare State to Police State. Joe, It depends on how much shooting you're going to do on the clays course with the gun. The IZH27 is in my opinion designed to be a hunting gun, and works well in that venue. The auto-safety is a royal pain in the behind on the clays course.
I have about 10,000 rounds through my IZH27 and have had no mechanical problems to speak of. The gun was very tight out of the box, and with a thorough cleaning and dressing up of the wearing surfaces, it loosened up nicely.The finish on the wood is very thin and will require some work if aesthetics are a concern. The wood used in the stocks isn't the finest hardwood. EAA has sent replacement stocks to several individuals who had problems with splitting. In nearly all cases of complaints I've heard on the gun, the individual did not disassemble and thoroughly clean and lubricate the gun. They just took it out of the box and started shooting.
With the sticky rust preventative in the works, parts don't move freely and things can get bent or damaged when trying to force the gun open. An ounce of preventative care and common sense goes a long way.
I am curious about the rating for lead vs steel. Since i havent opened the gun and read the manual, i was hoping someone could shead some light on the subject. Peter Contact EAA if your gun does not have steelproof mark. I hope it has. Sometimes these russian rules are littlebit confusing (just imagine how long borderline with russians we finns have ). I dunno why they dont put the stamp in the gun if the gun is steelproofed. Maybe they dont do the tests because they trust the gun.
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But when there is your personal safety in question you cant be too careful. My decision is 'no steel' until my dealer gives me written and signed verification that the gun can stand iron or puts the gun thru the test. By the way: this bbs is just awesome.
Good quality discussions and polite manners Best regards Jouko EU: From Welfare State to Police State. I have an IZH27 20ga. With nickel receiver, 26' barrels, and walnut stock model. I bought this gun to get back into skeet and am very pleased with it. The fit and finish is very good and have had none of the problems that others speak of. The trigger is mechanical, the selectable ejectors/extractors are a great feature not found on many, more expensive guns, and the barrel selector, via pushing the trigger forward to select top barrel, works as it should.
I wasn't fond of the automatic safety, but it only takes a few rounds to remember to take it off before calling for your clay. It can also be disabled if it really bothers you that much. The action was a little tight at first, but became easier after a few rounds. I think any new gun should be disassembled, cleaned and lubed before use.
The Baikal is no different. At the skeet range my Baikal has performed flawlessly, except when Winchester forgot to put shot in my AA's.
Everyone I shoot with use much more expensive guns, but have accepted me and my cheap Baikal without criticism. One of the best shooters even made a comment that my Baikal reminded him of a 'K' gun. LOL Well, it's no 'K' gun, and it's not a 'B' gun, but it's a great gun for the money, and I'm glad I didn't spend three or four times what I did. I would definitely buy it again. Just my experience and opinions, Otto.
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